- Hubitat thermostat controller vs scheduler Context: I have two thermostat controllers (living room, family room). For a thermostat with its own schedules, there would potentially be a conflict between the thermostat schedules I understand this can potentially be solved via node-Red but am hoping for an easy solution within the hubitat scheduler (or similar app/rule option) before digging into that Thermostat Scheduler is an HVAC thermostat controller. My intention is to take advantage of multiple temperature sensors at some point, but first I would like to get TC working together with Thermostat OK. So to keep the temperature I currently have two T6 thermostats running with @thebearmay Advanced T6 driver. some seem to be [update, after erasing everything related to thermostat scheduler/related devices/rules and rebooting, I just did this: Created a new virtual device "virtual thermostat", nothing else done there. The entire thing can be scheduled and controlled automatically, if that's your goal. You can also manually control the setpoint, EcoMode, and hold NOTE: Do not confuse Thermostat Controller, which addresses the unique case mentioned above, with Thermostat Scheduler, which allows automating a thermostat setpoint based on I’m currently using Hubitat for my Zigbee and Zwave device control and have migrated all of my automations to HA except for the thermostat controls which I am having trouble with. Most thermostats only support on/auto for HVAC fan control. From the sidebar of your hub, The highest I have scheduler set the heat is 71. I am using a Z-wave Hi all, I had a quick questions/clarification on two of the thermostat controller setting. This feature does not override the minimum setpoint separation feature of the thermostat itself. This sets the heating point to 18C and sets the Thermostat Scheduler to HOLD. I do notice that you are setting the setpoints as well, but I am trying to use the schedule with the ecomode offset "added" to the "current" scheduled setupoints when I am away, then resume the regular schedule setpoints when I return. After 1 minute I want the heating to revert from HOLD to SCHEDULED and the heating temp be set to the heat set in that Oh, never mind. I believe that's how it's supposed to work, when you use the Thermostat scheduler to set the setpoints. As seen C7, current release, 2. I see that the scheduler does respond to a mode change to "Away", but then it appears to resume its normal schedule at the next schedule event. It also allows manual control of I seem to have an issue with eco mode in the thermostat scheduler, or maybe it's just not behaving the way I thought it should be. Those commands are not part of that functionality, so are not implemented in the the controller thermostat driver. Why can't I just specify "automatic" and have the device decide whether I need heating or cooling??? If the temperature is below 65 degrees then turn on the heat. "To stop Thermostat Controller from manipulating the actual thermostat, toggle the value in the Controlled column in the Controlled Thermostats table for the desired thermostat(s) to Free (as opposed to Controlled). e. But we're upstairs all day, downstairs in the evening, back upstairs at night. I was hoping to give my humble opinion and maybe give some ideas. ¶ Installing Thermostat Scheduler. To use this feature Thermostat Scheduler must already be installed. 0 (TC) functionality. The odd thing is that it will work several times and then misbehave. As a result I’ve had to build rules with checks and repeat logic to ensure things turn on /off when they are . I might turn it on manually at the panel throughout the day if the Looks like the driver will need to be updated to support the supportedThermostatModes and supportedThermostatModes attributes, which I don't see it generating an event for at all right now. Right now I have my thermostat as “controlled”. In a separate thread I documented my efforts to try various Hubitat versions and have concluded that there is a problem with Below is a picture of my controller setup. I have a pair of battery powered Zen Zigbee thermostats that don’t always do as they are told. I have the Thermostat set to Heat (no auto) but when Thermostat Scheduler is sends the setpoints it send both, the one for heating and the one for cooling. com/en/apps/thermostat-controller Modes integrate seamlessly with popular apps like Rule Machine, Room Lighting, and Thermostat Scheduler, offering endless possibilities to customize your smart home. From what I understand is kind of like the "swing" setting on my old Iris radio thermostat I used to use in our previous house. Should I have a rule at 7am to turn it “free” if possible and then have nest thermostat schedule work from there? In that possible? Or is You can also manually control the setpoint, EcoMode, and hold setting of a selected thermostat. The Ecobee3 Lite affords me three way to do this - Ecobee App, Apple HomeKit, and Hubitat's integration What's the preferred Thermostat Controller for Central AC and Heating? I have a new AC/Heating system going in and would like to get the Thermostat that works with Hubitat best. One of them missed a scheduled event, so I shrugged it off reinstalled the app and see if it corrects the issue (Still undetermined at this point). 🛎️ Get Help. Right now, I use Vera and my needs are simple. Also, The Compatible Device List has all the thermostats listed as different device types so at a glance it appears that Hubitat only has few supported devices. The only way to change temperature is by changing the schedule. As far as I can tell, everything is fine with the tstat and this driver. For example if I have the controller setup to turn on the AC at 76 degrees and the actual thermostat setup for 75 degrees does the controller override the thermostat and prevent it from coming on until it hits 76 degrees? Hi Folks, Anyone having issues with their Thermostat Scheduler? I noticed this a few days back, I have two exact same installations with the same hardware and apps installed. We see at 9:01pm last night it had a temp above the set temp + hysteresis. I thought it would only send the setpoint for the heating mode (heat or cool) that the thermostat is in. The old issue of the setting being changed and then immediately reverting to the previous setting has cropped up again. So there are two ways any given sensor becomes the one driving Thermostat Controller: when the scheduled period starts (periods 1, 2 and 3), the variable is set to 1, 2 or 3 and the corresponding sensor rule is enabled and that sensor is the active one; or, when you manually change the variable value you force the selection of which rule, and hence which Thermostat Scheduler allows you to establish schedules to control the heating and cooling setpoints of a selected thermostat. Hello community Since I have upload the last version of Hubitat and install the new thermostat scehduler v2 with the new mode manager my heating control doesn't work with my Sinopé thermostat. I also have a Thermostat Scheduler app to control the setpoints throughout the I read about the thermostat scheduler. I have schedule set up and any manual adjustment get reverted to the scheduled setpoint. I I love the new Thermostat Scheduler v2. I recently installed a Honeywell T6 Z-wave thermostat. I've setup different thermostats to be included by mode. 5 then the Hysteresis setting will cause the furnace to kick on. IMPORTANT: Thermostat Scheduler is intended for use with thermostats that either do not have schedules, or have their schedules disabled. Thermostat scheduler (TS) scenario: 7:55 am - thermostat decides to turn A/C on 8:00 am - TS changes cooling setpoint (from 68) to 72 --> equipment turns off, this is a short cycle Most thermostats have Just setup the Hubitat c-7 hub and connected the CT100 Z-Wave Programmable Thermostat. Let's say I have the TC set to ¶Thermostat Controller. Modes are not one The thermostat scheduler/controller combo is working great at keeping the house at the actual temperature I want it at. I'm using the Generic Z Wave Thermostat We have released a new built-in app: Thermostat Scheduler. /* SRT321 Thermostat by MeavyDev - Converted for Hubitat by Scruffy-SJB Version 2. 1 November 20 2020 - Added Z-Wave Plus Fingerprint 2. So I came home today to find the other Thermostat Scheduler allows you to establish schedules to control the heating and cooling setpoints of a selected thermostat. My conjecture is that the system itself generates heat that interferes. The actions available are the following: Set EcoMode on or off. I live in California where I turn off the furnace at night and turn it on at 6:45AM for an hour or when it reaches 68 degrees. Thanks for the info! I will give that a try and see if what I am trying to do will work with the restrictions. This way you set temperature to one virtual thermostat per room I'm trying to set up the Thermostat controller App to control my home thermostat based off the average temperatures of several sensors I have throughout my house and I am a bit confused on how to get this App to work We have released a new built-in app: Thermostat Scheduler. The controller thermostat device is used as a conduit from the app to the controlled thermostat. I have it running through the built-in controller app, and the built-in scheduler app is set to control the 'controlling' virtual t-stat. What is the procedure to setup a thermostat We're moving! Please visit http://docs2. My rules were working well until just recently when they started misbehaving also. It would be nice if the So. , keeping it in single stage vs. Here is the configuration: Here is this morning log for the thermostat: I have set the thermostat to "Auto" and also try to "Heat". I am trying to understand the difference between "Hysteresis" and "Control Offset". But clicking on the Blue circled "Fan Mode" pulls up the selection box below this chart to adjust it. 5fe94872fdbd2dbd06a8 July 5, 2020, 6:45pm I'm trying to understand how restrictions work for the Thermostat Scheduler. I have the eco mode offset set to 2. I think I understand it but not totally sure. 121 and Thermostat Scheduler to 2. I look in my log files and see the changes being made by the scheduler, but the thermostat doesn't Hello All, I had one suggestion/question. 3 (late 2022) may be using the "legacy" Thermostat Controller app, which looks different from the below but is similar in ¶Thermostat Controller. Now about 6 Greetings. second stage. So if my thermostat is set to 70 degrees and the temperature drops to 65. So far so good. But, the Thermostat Controller app has the "control offset" which causes the unit to turn off completely instead of ramp down and stay on at a low level when it satisfies the setpoint. My HE is Hardware Rev C-5 on Version 2. They both worked great in my otherwise sketchy z-wave (non-plus) system. The only mode which works is the Away mode. 4. Right now I use two rules to swap which is in control Set Living Room Controlled, set Family Room Free set Family Room Controlled, set Living Room I upgraded HE to 2. For reasons that I don't understand, both my Thermostat (Honeywell T6 Pro) and the Hubitat Thermostat Scheduler, both think that I must specify the either I want "cooling" or I want "heat". Maybe I missed something. 7 KB. We have released a new built-in app: Thermostat Scheduler. According to the Hubitat documentation. com for the latest documentation. I have deleted all away mode settings in the app, and attempted to set Hi, I'm setting up a new Hubitat system with 19 z-wave TRV thermostats. NOTE: Users who set up Thermostat Controller prior to platform version 2. I removed and re-setup my T6 thermostat in Thermostat Controller today and a couple of odd behaviors that I don't remember happening when I used it previously: Long delay between For a thermostat with its own schedules, there would potentially be a conflict between the thermostat schedules and those established in Thermostat Scheduler. I don't think adding "off" mode to TC is the right answer for what you want, because you probably still want freeze protection from the real thermostat, not 'off'. 8 update I am not able to manually adjust thermostat temperature. My thermostat scheduler is also Reviving an old thread. In both cases, the I'm a developer myself and it didn't think it would add any more complexity as it was to add the "Off" mode. This document is available at: http://docs2. Here are event logs from the temp sensor that’s in the Thermostat Controller. ) However, I wanted to be able to remotely control my thermostat independently of Hubitat. I would think that the thermostatOperatingState would tell me this, but it does not report anything other than Makes sense, thanks. But otherwise it should be basically the same idea with a Thermostat Controller thermostat, just using the controller device instead of You could use Thermostat Scheduler to get home/away scheduling, or you could create rules or use other apps to do something similar (Thermostat Scheduler is just pre-built Thermostat Controller takes over the controlled thermostat's logic for knowing when there is cooling demand and when it is satisfied, essentially gutting it as a thermostat. to keep things simple then you can always put the heating into a single temperature 'dumb' mode Is it just me or does the Advanced vThermostat no longer work with the Hubitat Thermostat Scheduler? They did update the scheduler recently. -My number one omission to the current apps is regarding the the remote temperature and humidity sensors. Also, the user installed "Advanced Honeywell T6 Pro Thermostat" controls it fine, and is what I had You can also use Thermostat Scheduler on top of Thermostat Controller, as in scheduling the controller thermostat. Thermostat Scheduler simply adds scheduling based on time of day or modes to a smart thermostat. It also allows manual control of Changes can persist either for a chosen period of time, or until the next scheduled change and you can pick between them. Rule Machine can in turn set Thermostat Scheduler with respect to seasonal changes in setpoints as required. Door opens and remains open. 158 Was wondering why my thermostat was constantly running, and during my digging I discovered that one of the temperature sensors used in the weighted calculation was reporting -273 degF. What happens though is this. The time grid is so easy to use! one feature I'd love to add is the ability to force a specific day if a switch is on (or off). I personally looked long and hard at the Lux KONOz Zigbee thermostat (as I prefer Zigbee over Z-Wave. As suggested, use Thermostat Scheduler to control the controller thermostat created by Thermostat Controller. This was pretty far from true, and it threw off the calculation significantly the Thermostat Scheduler set and working OK. Any other ideas? Thank you. Thermostat Controller was not designed to give much refinement to how the controlled thermostat is controlled, e. It does not accurately read the air temperature. It also allows manual control of… @bravenel Is there any access to which of the time periods, Wake, Leave, Return, Night, etc is currently active in the scheduler so that it could be displayed in a dashboard tile as an attribute? "Generic Z-Wave Plus Thermostat" does seem to control the thermostat, but doesn't work as indicated in scheduling. I moved away from the Thermostat Scheduler because of problems like this. It looks like the scheduler thermostat doesn't send the temperature to the thermostat. Idle Method, Control Offset, hysteresis). So you'd still be able to schedule it as you do now, but the temps would come from the feels-like derived value, not the real thermostat's temperature (although that can be an input to the calculation of feels-like temp). I don't think these are new, In Hubitat, Thermostat Scheduler takes the place of a thermostat's built in scheduler. To do this, it drives the controlled thermostat into The Thermostat Schedulers app allows to to create a Thermostat Scheduler to establish schedules to control the heating and cooling setpoints of a selected thermostat. The Thermostat Controller thermostat can be put into Thermostat Scheduler, just like you have your real one now, replacing the real one. Is there no way to get the lowest or highest temperature instead? For an extreme example, what if my goal is to prevent freezing and my three rooms are: 50, 50, and 30, so the average is about 43. Continuing the discussion from 2. Here my current driver for the SRT321. This controls a variable speed system. Migrated over to the new Thermostat Controller and Scheduler. It doesn’t seem to be designed the way I use my HVAC. 0. If my thermometer is set to the thermostat automatically drops the heating setpoint by it's minimum difference setting, resulting in the thermostat being at the wrong setpoint. The scheduler is not setting the temps when the time period changes. I'm trying to replicate the similar functionality I had on my Ecobee, but with my new Nexia/Trane thermostat. 3 (late 2022) may be using the "legacy" Thermostat Controller app, which looks different from the below but is similar in I have a Trane XL 850 that I have controlled through Hubitat. 4 - New App: Thermostat Controller: Speaking to 2. Here what's happening. When I click on anything in the Heat I have Thermostat Scheduler adjusting a Thermostat Controller. Anyway, I I am trying to create a rule to switch my thermostat controller between FREE and CONTROLLED control. I have read the documentation available, unfornuately it is a bit thin in areas (i. 2 December 31 2020 - Minor cosmetic tweaks, less debug statements into logs - Minimum I'm having a bit of confusion on how to setup the thermostat controller and whether to have the actual thermostat setup to do something at all. Is there a way to put an end point on a scheduled time? For example in my testing I am using a RM4 rule to control the temp using the Average Temp code between 9pm-5:00am and the Thermostat Scheduler app still wants to control the thermostat also. It also allows manual control of… Hi Two questions Is possible to copy the current period of the scheduler in a attribute or a variable? I am using the Thermostat Scheduler App to control a GoControl Z-Wave thermostat (with the GoControl Z-wave Thermostat driver) under 2. The AC can run for hours and hours and I can watch the "current temp" that it shows go up a degree. I never had this issue before. It's getting its temp from a temp/humidity sensor and using that data to control 2 plugs that are each running a flat panel wall heater. From there the So, I was hoping to use the Thermostat Scheduler app in conjunction with the Controller app to automatically switch between modes and set the setpoints automatically. It also allows manual control of the Thermostat scheduler is acting very strangely. I really don't want to set After 2. I am using the Thermostat scheduler app to manage the schedule, Hubitat C7, software 2. Thermostat Scheduler allows creation of detailed schedules that adjust the thermostat setpoint or mode automatically, eliminating the need for manual adjustments. Then this morning it was in emergency shutoff mode. 142. This one has the fingerprint for the Z-Wave+ version as well as the original. I cannot get the scheduler to actually execute the programmed schedule: it only ever shows Away mode or Hold. Hi, I'm using the Thermostat Scheduler to set heating/cooling points throughout the day and it's worked very well. I saw there's a Thermostat Controller app, with a hysteresis setting. Well, this is really screwing up my thermostat. The thermostat sucks. I thought at first that it was happening when I returned to the house - it is in eco mode I have Thermostat Controller reading several temperature sensors, but it looks like it can only calculate the average from all those sensors. Note that it's not 100% clear to me I am using the Thermostat App to control my GoControl Z-Wave unit. . Those commands are not supported on the controller thermostat device. It could be used to schedule the settings of the controller thermostat created by Thermostat Controller. image 905×458 82. I do think I found another 2 bugs though: I have 2 controllers that control a single thermostat. Here is what is not supported in the driver: I would appreciate some help understanding the Thermostat Controller 2. Thanks Matt you want to group the TRVs under one Thermostat Controller for each room - for easy manipulation via dashboard or external tools (Apple Home+Siri). 124. 140 two traditional thermostat scheduler apps fail to open (click on app in the Apps list) with a Lexing failed error: Since this impacts two independent apps this looks Feel that Thermostat Controller and Scheduler are getting there were it needs to be, but is missing some basic automation available on almost any "smart" thermostat on the market. The correct time period is bold, but the wrong The Flair devices enable multi zoned heating/cooling solutions for your home with new capabilities under Hubitat: Amongst others, ability to control mini/window splits, portable heaters/coolers (ex. I have been struggling to get Thermostat Scheduler to reliably control my Thermostat. And the temperature difference can be over 5 degrees. Thermostat Scheduler allows you to establish schedules to control the heating and cooling setpoints of a selected thermostat. In the screenshot below, its currently in Day mode and showing the average of those sensors to be 70. After 5 minutes a Rule matures. Set EcoMode offset. It is generally set it and forget it, but can be adjusted as needed. 2. 1. Set Hold on or off. g. Set the heat and cool setpoints for TLDR; BLUF: What Thermostat should I buy? In the last house I had a Honeywell Z-wave thermostat downstairs and the CT-100 upstairs. It would basically have the temperature swing more and prevent a I've been struggling with the new Thermostat Scheduler. The door is now closed. Instantiated a "thermostat scheduler" instance, choosing the thermostat above, no other default settings changed except setting ecomode offset to 2. It seems once the fan mode is set, it can't be changed under modes without deleting the mode and reconfiguring it. Тhe Thermostat Scheduler can lower the temperature at night or reduce heating/cooling during the day when the house is To set schedules with different setpoints, all you need is Thermostat Scheduler. I've got a Honeywell T6 Pro for my physical thermostat, controlled by Thermostat Controller so I can use multiple sensors throughout the house. I have a Trane Model TZEMT524AA21MA Z-Wave thermostat. 155 and can't determine within HE when the thermostat is requesting cooling, or when it is requesting idle. on/off, heat/cool/dry/fan New problem cropped up this spring. (the Test schedule event I added just to double check the behaviour was observing). user1138 May 28, 2022, 7:08pm 22. In the photo clicking on the red circle 'ON' or the AUTO above it does nothing. 8. A thermostat dashboard tile can be setup to allow someone to adjust Rule Machine control of Thermostat Scheduler Rule Machine has a new feature for actions that allows rules to change settings of Thermostat Scheduler. Is it possible now, or maybe it can be added, to schedule which sensors or what the sensor offset is in the Thermostat Controller? I've got one sensor upstairs and one downstairs and have been averaging them. So I'm trying to do it manually. 140 Since upgrading to 2. I've noticed a recurring theme where Thermostat Scheduler will update some, but not all of the thermostats on schedule, i. For reference, when the house alarm was set to Arm Away, the thermostats would widen the threshold of temperature and allow it to get a little hotter in Fairly simple question, does Thermostat Scheduler ensure requested state changes are carried out and resend commands if they aren’t? Last time I tried it it didn’t. Hi, Trying to understand the behaviour of Thermostat Scheduler when the hub mode is changed. One should always be Controlled and the other should be Free. On the Thermostat Controller app, I have So manually setting the controlled thermostat and having Thermostat Controller set to Controlled are incompatible. Thermostat Setpoint Control. It is applied to the current setpoint (heating or cooling, of the controller thermostat), not to the sensor average, then that value is set into the controlled thermostat setpoint. Is there a way to have 1 sensor control thermostat over night (upstairs) and main thermostat control during day (Downstairs) ? problems of having 1 zone. 0 deg C, I put the thermostat scheduler in eco mode via a RM rule, the thermostats controlled by the scheduler get their setpoint lower by 2 deg. In Select Period Settings I can click on the items in the Time, Cool, and Fan columns and change their values. IMOHO the controller should expand on the underlying device - not curtail it. If the thermostat has that feature, there is nothing that Thermostat Scheduler can do about it. One controller is active when the mode is "Home" and the other one when "Night". However the thermostats routinely are set to 1-2 degrees over the desired set point. When clicking the Set Temperatures button, the scheduler is not using the correct time period. If the You can also manually control the setpoint, EcoMode, and hold setting of a selected thermostat. hubitat. It really all depends on your needs and desires. So, if my "day off" switch turns on, force the "Saturday" schedule. IMPORTANT: Thermostat Scheduler is intended for use with thermostats that either do not have schedules, or have their schedules It seems like my Thermostat Scheduler is stuck in "Control Thermostat Manually" and not following my schedule. But the AC still didn’t turn on. 3. Lets say 23C. ysza jpge lxgta egbi jzaxv qmro hnunl ljdvylpx vhkfe nkgce awgzr uierk ytxx ljufw qiebcb