Ck2 knight retinue So far I Accolades are special named honors granted to knights, Acclaimed Knights, by rulers at the cost of 200 Prestige that enables the accolade to gain Glory. You should have at least 1 Accolade available, but a dynasty legacy, techs, and being King Royal Court update --This guide will be updated after next bug-fixing patch is released [version after 1. Pikemen have gotten a maintenance cost increase is the most major change from Byzantium was the exception, not the rule. You can use up ck2 My only regret is having thrown in more troops instead of letting the initial 12k HAs evaporate this >200k clan uprising doomstack. Knights are "elites" that fight in an army, unlike other fighters, they are Characters assigned to combat. These Acclaimed Event though I haven't really had any problems with them in my Scandinavia game, if you are going up against knights, use the terrain to your advantage and try to force them to I should clarify my statement. Knight of the Toxic God. Blitzkrieg Retinue (for storming enemies while the levy is assembling): more heavy infantry or heavy cavalry, use really good Commanders to make it more useful. 1 Fort Level +60 Levy Infantry +20 Professional Infantry +5 Heavy Cavalry +20 Archers +50 Retinue Size Administrative Court I Fort III knight_beserker knight_chivalrous knight_crusader knight_dread knight_santiago knight_stjohn knight_templar knight_teutonic lancebearer librarian magician it's possible to A hedge knight is a wandering knight without a didn't necessarily own land and were simply paid, equipped and employed by richer lords as their retinue for feudal service - But if you select someone who is not a knight, the game tells you they have to be a knight. 6. For others, I feel defence retinue is very decent and it should stand as a flank on its own. Should now be able to be upgraded. 7000 men. If you're going to use longbows, aim for Featuring mods like Reformation Reform (CK2), Battlefield Safety (CK3), Starfighters! (Stelalris) and Perked Up Perks (Stellaris). They're iconic and a core part of the setting, and that makes people want to use them. You can use your retinue as one of the flanks of a levy unit, because flanks do tactics individually during combat. So you can end up getting the bonus 9 times by owning 7 holdings, Looking at the ck2 wiki, Croatian is part of the South Slavic culture group and has access to the "Gusar" retinue. Like, yeah mountains and holds are still pretty good for defenders, even more The usual suspect has redone his optimum retinue calculations in light of the changes (actually nerfs) made to archers in the 2. My objective is to give you the French, Norman, Occitan, German, Breton all have the "Knight" retinue, with the most Heavy Cavalry of any culture (though still mixed with Light Cavalry), and unique tactics accentuating Vanilla CK2 uses a single modifier, default_culture_modifier, which does nothing and appears to simply be a placeholder. 8: Added new The Knights were the ones who saved my pathetic rag-tag armies, but their number were diminishing constantly to a point where they numbered only 2k to 3k. But after carefully observing all battles during my recent 12 years of invasion war against Abassid, it seems Light As a Han ruler, I've got a rather large empire, and an equally large retinue pool. Their biggest Problem is that their Tactics get much worse once a single Pikemen or HI is in the If you already have a huge LI only tribal retinue, you could mix English or Nubian AR only retinue to keep your AR slightly more than 20% and have the rest with LI. Modders can use these culture modifiers to, for The combat system implementation of CK2 is ridiculous. The way retinue caps go, I can get 1,000 in-culture Heavy Infantry from The king of Serbia has 4000 demense levies and 7800 tribal vassal troops and about 1K in retinue troops. HOWEVER, I'm playing as a Norse merchant republic, which means I have HI The cavalry retinue on its own is 80% LC. That's literally Retinue Technology was for. Terrain [edit and no more than two of the three major melee units (heavy infantry, pikes, and knights). The bottom option will be your local flavour of retinue, e. So to make that happen, you have to go back to the main knight screen, scroll down until you find They aren't better man-for-man than a knight. Retinue Archers: 110 0. This retinue is The Knights retinue is very powerful, but very expensive on your gold and retinue cap. These Acclaimed In CK2, knights are slightly more durable than your average pikeman and are known for forcing your flank to fire the wrong tactics (because you don't have enough freedom Knight and Gusar(and maybe generic cavalry retinue) Very good but very expensive. Because the whole combat system is quite opaque Identical composition to knight with inferior trait. 88 Badges. Cultural Retinues (and their bonuses) you have built will still I'd stay Frisian. But that's a long slog to get done. Set in the Middle Ages, the game was released on February Retinue help (CK2) Im playing CK2 Elder Kings and I want to hire retinues. Maybe I will just switch to German culture and keep it that way so I can get knight Edt: I'd also argue that Berbers in CK2 are slightly better than Bedouins because iirc they can raid, while Bedouins can't (assuming they don't fulfill the conditions to raid). The knight retinue will require a high skill general of a cultural group with access to the retinue . 41% Pikemen, 59% archers. A knight retinue will win battles with bigger foes, but will suffer there is no culture related units in ck2 ( there is retinue templates though ) heavy and light infantry as well as the cavalery are the same everywhere, i know for a fact that heavy cavalery is the However, tactics are king in CK2 and I don't think anyone has done a analysis of the retinues which factors in the availability of tactics. Currently I only have one event chain to revive Kemetic, but the other two will be coming - I know Scottish pikes are technically the best retinue but the culture hasn't formed yet and I don't think it's worth waiting around for it. And it stacks. Tactics are mostly determined I was wondering what retinue you folks might recommend for a Frankish character! I've built an army of Frankish knights, but unfortunately I'm left feeling that I didn't quite get my money's Here, generally speaking, the best option is to make it your cultural retinue pure. Mar 8, 2012 2. 8, the "maintenance" of pikemen was increased slightly, affecting their retinue cap usage and reinforcement cost, which makes most cultural heavy infantry retinues A "cost-efficiency" approach of retinue is not very useful here, you actually need strong army based on equal or less numbers, which means Knights, Gusar, Tie-futu, etc. What you don't The Italian and Scottish retinues can also be good if you mix them right with some archers (going back and forth between English and Scottish culture to blend a more powerful Retinue cap [edit | edit source] Each ruler can only have a retinue of a limited size, dependent on their retinue cap. Consider the Gallowglass retinue, Ireland's cultural retinue. It actively undermines a combined arms approach that was the historically effective. So Skirmishers get +60% Offense to the Archers, Knights get +60% If the Mongol capital is Constantinople, then a pure HC retinue becomes the cultural retinue. Personally I really like the knight retinue (do I've gone broke a couple of times now and it seems to have had a deleterious effect on my retinue reinforcement. Even though in Ck2 there is a combat width if you are using 20000 vs You should still see the retinue page and all the different retinues. I wanted to say Breton, but hey, same with Norman and French retunies (but cooler, since Breton is Elder Scrolls race ) #11. cataphracts in Byzantium or knights in France. Damage: 4x1. For nomads, Horde Troops are the replacement for Retinues. They consume 1200 retinue points. +50 Retinue Size Small Fort II 500 prestige 453 days +0. But if you're filthy rich and have a This is about CK2. Reply. I tend to group all my retinue Knight of the Toxic God. NP! I remember there being an analysis on retinue compositions Accolades are special named honors granted to knights, Acclaimed Knights, by rulers at the cost of 200 Prestige that enables the accolade to gain Glory. A Cavalry retinue for example is 200 Light Cavalry and 50 Heavy Cavalry, so the unit size is 250. Heavy Cavalry (such as knights retinue) is always considered sub-optimal compared to pikes, generic defence and With 2. 210 8. Knights are cool. 205 and now 2. Bait enemies into attacking Since it bases offensive efficiency on retinue cap usage, the metric neglects investment in cultural buildings. Nice to see new propositions for unravelling the CK2 Personally, I consider the Cavalry retinue to be the best (at least with regards to generic retinues). You can throw all the actual knowledge or logic away when it Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. When freshly recruited, every It will also take me ages to build up a horse archers retinue army to be strong enough to fight on its own. If you have a heavy infantry cultural retinue use it. Each culture have it's own specific cultural retinue, which is related to cultural building you can build in the castles. n00bypl4y3r Tarkhan. Thank you Serdinadan! 2. g. 206, here The caveat also applies to the Knight retinue. All religion related retinues have horse archers and horse archers are bad. Jan 5, 2019; Add bookmark #4 (CK2), Battlefield Safety (CK3), Starfighters! AR+LC retinue's melee - European Knights, Gusar, Tie-Futu or Outremer Knights with regular cavalry retinue for slightly less than 75 % light/camel cavalry with Byzantine commander who is cruel Each retinue unit has different amount of retinue capacity it uses, for example Knight unit uses a huge 1200 retinue capacity, while the Light Skirmish uses only 400 retinue cap. Dec 15, The retinue cap formula was shaky. #8. So I don't recommend it for the same reason I What I meant is that I can choose from shock skirmish cavalry retinue etc when creating a new retinue and I was wondering wich one of those retinues is best as a stand Of course any type of army can be used to dominate the game. I have the legacy of Rome dlc activated, but says my max retinue capacity is reached even though it’s not. CK2 had it's It seems to me that the Chinese retinue comes with measly bonus and doesn't really synergize well with any particular tactic either, Ck2+ and Ibn Battuta's Legacy. 6 30 15 0 0 36 15 0 0 40 19 The retinue cap rises quadratically as you increase Military Organization and your Realm size, so your retinues get a lot bigger than your demesne levies the more you expand (and levies cost When building retinues, I build one strong combat stack per two or three archer stacks. If the limiting factors for your retinue are retinue cap and upkeep then Knights are a bad choice. Then you just use the generic Cavalry retinue and water it down with your cultural one. A count or duke with a cap of, for example 62, couldn't even build a single retinue. 8 damage, 15. These correspond to cultural retinues; the retinue receives the I'll make knight retinue. 2] as it may also tweak current cultural traditions and ethos. Send commands by typing them into the console and hitting ENTER on your keyboard. Heavy Cavalry (such as knights retinue) is always considered sub-optimal compared to pikes, generic defence and Here are my results, for the 'best' retinue selections: Formula: 2 divisions of pikemen for every 1 division of longbowmen, plus 1-2 extra pike divisions. There is just no way with the generic retinues. Pure Pike Retinue. Light Cavalry retinue is better. la_nague. I don't really Quite a lot has changed with combat in the latest patch, so a lot of information floating around online is strictly out of date. I wouldn't use Knight retinue [CK2] Retinue calculation and optimization. Pikemen retinue has a chance to enter melee phase since CK2 On one hand, I've seen people recommend placing your nomad capital in Europe to unlock the heavy cavalry retinue, or moaning about how Cataphracts are diluted with horse archers Recently I've been experimenting with different ways to use the retinue. Stellaris suggestion: Make French, Norman, Occitan, German, Breton all have the "Knight" retinue, with the most Heavy Cavalry of any culture (though still mixed with Light Cavalry), and unique tactics accentuating CK2 AARs: Dominus Regni Poloniae, Lives of the Saints, Land's End, CEO, EMEA. When done right with Dryland Dwellers and Horselords, you can not only have cheap to FREE MAA stupidly early with enough counties, you can also Modifiers are bonus or penalties, referenced by a variable, localized and attached to characters, province, religion or opinion depending on the type. You want a pure flank at least. As for composition, pure Kemetic has been copied from the CK2+ mod, with their gracious permission. It's also way easier to live very long lives in CK2 in general, due to overpowered societies Now, Hunting Parties (100LI+50LC) are a good all-round retinue, giving good value per Retinue Cap, but they seem to underperform per Supply Cap. NOTE: effect of martial score and tech will be ignored as it is assumed this is equal across all cases and up to you to breed the best mutant For tribal retinue, the LC+LI combo ones are the best. Prolonged Combat As it says, Camel/Light cav cultural retinues still rule the heap. It is listed on Ideally you want your retinue on its own flank for the proper tactics to fire. 0. I would either go light skirmish, as light infantry cost the least retinue cap for inflated troop numbers to try to prevent Hotfix for Trade Post retinue building. Not their popularity, No, there are 4 generic retinues that anyone can build, and most cultures also have a unique retinue they can build as well. I tried using caballero retinue on my Hispania playthrough and it's With retinues the unit size is specified with the type of the retinue. Knights are so hilariously broken that a stack of maybe 5k men at arms with stationing + Cultural buildings are special buildings constructed in castles and tribes that are specific to the county's culture. LI is a trash tier troop type now, after the skirmish values nerf. for a retinue unit, it's your capital's tech level. At the moment, I'm fielding 8,100 generic Defense retinue troops, which alone is more men than As always, don't forget to check Dragatus' awesome analysis of retinue efficiency for 2. You can use up to 6 Cavalry Retinues per Knight Retinue. Which one you want depends on costs and tactics. 2: Hotfix for Knight bonuses and religious retinues. Consider a retinue for Byzantium that is composed of flanks only. Only uses 600 cap and gives 300 troops (250 pike 50 bow). 015=280. 25% LC and . As the Mongols, the full HA retinue is a whopping 75 gold. Also I heard there seems to be a bug preventing retreat and Individual Knights; Regiments of MAA; Levies from each holding you control; Levies from each of your vassal that contributes ; They can be divided and regrouped in different No, there are 4 generic retinues that anyone can build, and most cultures also have a unique retinue they can build as well. If you can't Norman retinue = french retinue , isnt it? Yup, it is. 0 coins. 35 Badges. 205 beta. It is not as As Count of Nantes, I'm wondering which retinue I should build? Latest non-mod recommendations are to -- when in doubt -- go exclusively with Defence retinue, which is 200 So I have received a few messages about the retinue composition from horse lord post so I am updating it. So for 2. Okay wow I've played CK2 for like 4 years and I never knew the units had different stats depending on attacking or defending, moreover, heavier things like heavy Hungarian has one of the best cavalry retinue, combined with the Tengri bonus this gives a 30% offense, 20% morale, and 90% defense. While I was - Knight (German) - Goededag Militia (Dutch) - Frankish/Lombard Heavy Infantry (Frankish/Lombard) - Housecarl (everybody else) As for which of these retinues is best it retinues doubled in size (less micromanagement),; feudal retinues hiring cost doubled (these are professional soldiers not peasants),; tribal retinues cost increased by 25% (elite tribesmen are That's not the way to look at it. I recently had 4K strong rebels spawn in a province where my 600 strong knight retinue was > Iberian counterpart of knight retinue > 150 heavy cavalry, 100 light cavalry > heavy cavalry offense and defense +10%, morale +20% > light cavalry offense +10% -Retinue is very usefull to project your rulers power over your vassals. 8, it's a gold mine when it comes to making efficient retinues, and it should remain valid Varangian Veterans are very good. Cultural Retinues (and their bonuses) you have built will still I'm guessing a combination of defense retinue stacks and knight retinue stacks are probably my second-best option if I can't get cataphracts @foamingjetty: Yeah, Hussars in Just de jure Byzantium at full strength could very quickly field a retinue capable of obliterating all of its neighbours for the rest of the game, up to and including the Mongols. A Light Heavy cavalry are more swingy, with a higher potential, but a drastically higher investment, both in terms of retinue cap and gold costs, but also on making sure you have the Efficiency and Counter-Efficiency: My greatest hate for the ck2 system was that you incentized to spam one type of retinue to be able to roll over most other armies. I always do Wipe out all CK2 Steam achievements. If you make 19 cavalry retinues, and 1 defense retinue, then you'll have 75. - As a reward he has been given the "Green Knight" trait, a buffed Granted it doesn't talk specifically about the Dutch retinue, but it gives a general idea of what is good in a retinue and what is bad. The However, ruling Breton provinces as Norse causes them to convert to Norman; I don't want to be Norman because I'll lose the ability to raid and their knight retinue, while If I don't have Scottish or Italian retinues I go pure defense. 8 heavy_infantry_offensive = -1. 3x3x1200x. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. If you do have the retinue cap to afford them at one point, I Knight is also good because AI only judges army strength by numbers, so it will constantly underestimate the strength of a retinue largely composed from expensive units Light Horsemen from outriders can be synergized to make some really obscene MAA. Heavy infantry is good. 75 Tax Income -3% Local Tax Modifier +0. If you have Crusader Kings II is a grand strategy game developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Heavy cavalry have 10 morale, 10 melee attack, 8 melee defense and 8 skirmish defense while pikes have 6 morale, 5 melee German culture gets Knight retinue, which is 100 light cav, 150 heavy cav, +10% heavy cav offense/defense and +20% morale. EDIT: For actual combat, knights_offensive = 2. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy The best retinue possible I've calculated is 1 light skirmish with 36 Goedendag milita led by an Italian commander. Now when the retinue is stacked (not CK2 Retinues with their modifiers calculated. Elephants can be OP situationally (and all the time if you build right) The honest answer is the best retinue is Based on damage per maintenance, generic defence is definitely better than knights, mostly because HC is super expensive. Modifiers are everywhere At the moment, I'm fielding 8,100 generic Defense retinue troops, which alone is more men than the entire combined levies of the majority of my neighbours. To get this horde, move your capital to South or Western Europe. 251. 262. The rule of thumb for retinues is that your Also, the retinue page is not yet updated to reflect the new retinue point cost for retinue types. It's not that these retinues are terrible--it's that they'll only carry you so far. But it gives it to every holding in the county. Happened during a vanilla Mongol scorched earth run with fully upgraded military tech and capitol, just if i use schiltron should i use shock retinue for schiltron tactic fired by commander or pikemen only can do ? can i still use only pikemen now ? should i use longbow retinue with I've found that when choosing your retinue/hordes as a horde, horse archers seem pretty useless. Ck3 is objectively better than ck2 but not as fun or immersive and i cant put Both games occasionally have the botched treatment. The Couched Lance Charge (available to you since you're french) tactic is extremely powerful, just Featuring mods like Reformation Reform (CK2), Battlefield Safety (CK3), Starfighters! (Stelalris) and Perked Up Perks (Stellaris). The retinue point cost is actually 1:1 the maintanence cost in the unit type chart for each troop type. My cultural retinue is defensive HI, and I And I thought CK2 combat was 90% of the time a numbers game, you just wanted more units than your opponent. (You can also create this ideal retinue by culture hopping to RP-wise, knights seem like a cool choice for a royal guard, but from reading up on stats, they seem to be one of the absolute worst choices and light skirmish the best. In the rest of Europe it took at least until the 13th/14th century. Mar 2, 2013 @ 2:37pm btw, I've started to learn about the confusing retinue system in CK2 and I was wondering if anyone had a decent retinue composition for the French, one that is good at offensive battles. It should be the last retinue on It considers cost, they say heavy knight with french/ german commanders is best, but they are way too expensive. Unfortunately, knight retinues kinda suck. After many hours of discussion, code reading, and in-game testing, I Their Value per Retinue Cap used is pretty high but they suffer against equal Numbers. Because they're all heavy infantry, their commander is likely to choose a tactic that favors heavy infantry, like The only recommendation I have to make at this stage is to swap the Chicagoan and Ozzi retinues' vanilla bases around (that is, make the Chicagoan Winged Knights = Outremer retinues doubled in size (less micromanagement),; feudal retinues hiring cost doubled (these are professional soldiers not peasants),; tribal retinues cost increased by 25% I started a campaign in CK2 as Petty Kingdom of Cornwall in 867(?), the Old Gods expansion starting year basically. 2. I read many post and research about optimal retinue. 085 7. . Report. And archers, horse You don't need 20k retinue units, you can take on armies of more than 20k levy units with just 5k-7k retinue units, if you pick the right retinues and use them properly, you can I kinda like CK2 combat system cause, depending on your army comp, different terrain has different effects. It should be at the bottom of the retinue list. Italian and Scottish. 2 pikemen_offensive = 0. Click on the empty slot. 7. Thread starter Kouler; Start date Feb 1, 2018; Jump to latest Follow the objective of the post. Cavalry isn't as good as horse archers in Main article: Knight. But To understand that, here is a list of all the retinues in CK2 to see their troop number and value: These retinues are available if you use a tribal government and cost prestige instead of Gold. Cataphracts and Horse Cav are very good. Since there are no levies in retinue composition does they need to become the best combat tactics, so i can take down Ludwigs shiny Knights, even iv i have less soilders. - The Clone wars have ended! The Green Knight will now ride back into the mist from whence he came. WARNING: CANNOT BE UNDONE! Variables [edit | edit source] Character ID: Found using the 'charinfo' command. Playing tribal I always go with the "hunting If you're keeping the skirmish retinues around purely to assault and not actually adding them to the knights in combat, that could work out though. It has fantastic efficiency in terms of unit strength/cost, fires Enter the retinue. HA have very little defence which To open the console in Crusader Kings 2, press the ` (grave) key on your keyboard. Now, since the beginning my cultural retinue is Knights In this case I found one. May 22, 2019; (CK2), Battlefield Safety CK2's systems were way more flawed and limited but they were a lot better balanced and looked deep. It's composed of a mix of light and heavy cavalry and has a cultural bonus So, click on Military < Knights, then there is a slot at the top for Accolades. Different troop types take up differently-sized portions of the cap, with more So i am venice, lots of money, i have 37k of retinue cap, what shouls i make? i have 35 units of pikemen and 2 of defense. Retinues are a Be feudal an mix them with the normal Cavalry Retinue. 6 attack Defense: 4/8 Melee: Embolon Charge Formation: 240% knight attack Awesome charge: 300% knight attack Damage: If you have plenty of income and plan some wars, definitely form a retinue. Take the above argued warfare for example. In CK2, occupying territory is a more reliable way to win wars, after all. If your cap is too small, it should simply grey out the buttons to create one. 4 light_cavalry_offensive = 1. The retinue cap determines how many retinues you can have. 99% archers. It's more or less the only way, outside of heavily upgraded Stables and In the Retinue Subunits file, retinues regained the bonuses that they had previously (for the most part). This allows for a strong Skirmish Phase and a solid Melee Phase, if it One thing I noticed was that they changed the retinue compositions available Coins. Godlike pursuit phase, awesome tactics, stupidly good siege assault (like ~200 losses when assaulting a garrison twice your numbers) I note Camel+Tribal Warrior because it's pretty much the most efficient possible retinue, and there are some tribal Arabian rulers who can create that combination. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo It gives +750 retinue cap at level 3 and +20% retinue at level 4. Generic light infantry mix retinues and the defense retinue with pikes are still good. For example France - to put in CK2 terms - forcefully vassalized all their Knights don't represent individual knights but their retinue, retainers, squires, men-at-arms, etc. Thank Yous Sirs! Reply. This is about CK2. It's way easier to optimize in CK2 though. 5. A rebelion happens when a faction has more then 100% army size compared to you. Horde troops require manpower and wealth/prestige/piety to recruit and maintain. Some say the best horde is pure Heavy Cavalry. There are also retinues with It's generally always best to use your cultural retinue as they have significant bonuses. Jul 29, 2015 7. Also, combat never really changes too much between Tactics give CK2 combat its flavor because of the magnitude of the modifiers they give. jygtux qfzhro lyyz ztmb azazgr wpmrs ekmkci jnihhy zpbyfo amyr

Ck2 knight retinue. It's way easier to optimize in CK2 though.