Naim uniti core vs innuos zen. Certainly not to justify the 2.

Naim uniti core vs innuos zen 2022, 2:55pm 43. I gravitated towards Roon during that evaluation cycle and overall found it to be the most feature rich and user friendly. It has an analogue output as well as digital so it will play directly into your 282, and it will rip, store and play your CDs. northpole December 18, 2021, Nov 25, 2024 · Has anyone had a demo. I have had the Innuos Zen Mini too, the Uniti Core sounded much better, specially, if you send the signal via LAN Cable to a Streamer. There is a thread about my experiences with the Innuos boxes. I’ve read quite a number of other posts, and my head is spinning Feb 2, 2023 · Maybe you can set up a demo’ with a friendly local Innous dealer. Amplifiers CD Players Power Supplies Accessories Uniti Statement Mu-so. I agree with suggestions above regarding Zen Mini over the Uniti Core in Mar 17, 2017 · But, the Innuous Zen MIni seems to be the best buy. Plus a Naim streamer (tbc) in room 2. Don’t forget to get a new USB drive to use for backup. 1 Like. The new Innuos Sense app is very good, much better then the Naim Nov 25, 2024 · I even considered the NDX2/SN3 a third time earlier in the year without the Zenith, when the Naim summer sale was on, so it was circa £7k, still felt wasn’t worth the upgrade and box count. When I stream a track via the naim app , the track info will only stay on the Star display for c. Room 1 - Naim Streamer (tbc) would be an audio device for Oct 24, 2023 · Given you have a Naim power supply, you could try a s/h ndac and primare NP5 streamer/Ifi power supply. Ripping can be tedious, I would not want to do that all over again. I have set up the Zenith as a Roon core and the interconnect turns the NAC 272 into an Roon end point. There is an inbuilt DAC in the Zen Mini, not the higher models. But, the Innuous Zen MIni seems to be the best buy. Jan 26, 2024 · Yes there is a way to use the Innuos Zen Mini 3 as a UPnP server, and control it in the Sense app. If I buy and NDX2, I’ll want to change it eventually as things keep changin. Apr 3, 2019 · It’s also pretty painless to use. I had a brief look at the Innuos Zen Mini at Martins in Norwich, the user interface seemed very slick and pleasing on the eye, especially compared to my NDX, I do understand that there is a huge age gap Feb 13, 2021 · Purely theoretical for now, but given the Innuos as described by them as such much more than an app, curation wonder how many Innuos owners running Roon in server or experimental mode will consider the swap. The ND5 XS2 is intended for use in another room. I have it connected via SPIDF into my SuperUniti’s Digital input. The modular & upgradable architecture is appealing, I’m not sure how much of an upgrade over what I have though. The Zen Mk2 and Naim DAC are on the way. Other will say that an audiophile Nas sounds better, other not. It was a major step. As its name suggests, the Statement Jun 20, 2019 · I demoed both Melco and Innuos hardware in recent weeks as well as having a fiddle with a Uniti Core out of curiousity. These and Naim 222 are all connected to Innuos Phoenix-Net. NickBrighton January 2, 2025, 9:03am 1. With my headphone amp still cold from the journey I struggled to separate them but I would say the Sep 14, 2024 · Why does Naim neglect its Uniti Core? I went from uniti serve to Innuos Zennith, it sounded way better than the uniti serve ever did, easy to use and I really like the sense app. 5 seconds then it Sep 17, 2021 · I have both a Naim uniti Atom and an innuos zen mini my 3 hooked up to a gryphon Diablo 300 which feeds B&W 802 d3s. Leonml December 19, 2021, 6:03pm Here most have Innuos, Melco , Core or Nucleus as audiophile servers. Another option I would highly recommend is the Innuos Zen Mini. Any feedback in general on this product? Apr 2, 2024 · It’s a good question and one we are often asked. The initial problems with the Core were obviously sorted. It’s a pity naim haven’t invested in the software in the way other vendors like Innuos have, as the Core has the potential to be a fabulous product. I have been trying it out since Friday and am quite impressed. g. In comparison Naim seemed happy to use the Core right up through its hierarchy. It only rips and streams. To my mind their Zen(ith) models are all the Core should have Sep 18, 2024 · (And with added benefit of being able to change it myself if it failed. Luigi March 23, 2020, 10:10am Dec 19, 2021 · The Naim DAC was certainly some piece of kit, especially with the 555PS. There are a few one-box streamer/DACs that might give you what you want, such as the Innuos Zen Mini Mk3. Roon being the UI too. ) Secondly, I was unclear about whether the SQ of the Zen Mini would match the Core given that to improve SQ it seemed one needed to go up the Innuos ladder of servers. Jun 16, 2024 · The feedback from my dealer, who sold both, favoured the Innuos, there was minimal financial difference, in fact I could have went cheaper with the Innuos Zen Mini. I think I hear more clicks at times May 10, 2021 · So I’m awaiting delivery of little zen mini and note I can connect several different ways to my system. I have Thanks T-elmi. Particularly interested in any top tips, for optimal set- Jul 28, 2020 · The Innuos Zen MK. Jun 20, 2020 · Firstly the CPU that is in the Naim Core isn’t the same as is in the Innuos servers and so a specific build would need to be done for the CPU in the Naim Core. I have a Chord Dave and Etude due Friday so will switch Innuos to streaming, Roon and server modes. I have the Zen Mini 3. Aug 29, 2021 · I have a Naim uniti Atom which is hooked up to a gryphon Diablo 300 which feeds B&W 802 d3. In the meantime, I have an opportunity to get an ex-demo Supernait 3 and an ex-demo ND5 XS2 from my local Naim dealer at a very attractive price, especially with part-exchanging my Superuniti. But also as remarkably good value. It’s an old server now, not followed by Naim. This will also give you Oct 20, 2020 · I haven’t compared any other streaming device (Melco etc) to the Zen MK III in Roon Core mode, so I can’t say whether or not there is a difference to, for example a Zen MK III vs a Zenith MK III running as Roon Core. Jun 15, 2024 · Having recently had the opportunity, through the purchase of a Innuos Zenith MkiIi, to use as a comparison to the Naim Core. I love Roon but for me after many unsuccessful trials with the Mar 3, 2023 · The recent Zen Mini S has the RAM upgraded from 4GB to 8GB, in line with existing Zen and Zenith models, also SSD replacing HDD. My choice of off-the-shelf devices would be an Innuos Zen Mini, which is in fact ‘half the price’ of a Core and has a far better range of functions. Jan 2, 2022 · We have the Innuos Zen Mini mk3 + LPSU on home loan over the holidays. Imagine all your CDs available at the press Oct 13, 2020 · I’ve had my Naim Nova for a couple of months now, and over the last few days I’ve been drawn to the marked superiority in Qobuz when streamed from it as opposed to via my Innuos ZM3/LPSU combo into the Nova. I love the sound of my nDac. The sound quality of the atom sounds better, has more sharpness, depth Jan 8, 2019 · When our esteemed editor asked if I would like to review the Naim Uniti Core as I have a UnitiServe with which to compare it, acceptance was inevitable. Sean Jacobs; three asymmetrically aligned feet tuned to the resonant frequency of the chassis to Feb 7, 2024 · Will it recognize the uniti core I have connected? Would love to stream quboz but seems like a different app is needed to do that? I’m happy with using an innuos zen mk3 as a streamer into the nds, gives me qobuz, the innuos sense app which is superior to the naim interface, and I believe a slight uptick in sound quality. Jun 28, 2019 · Hello, i am tempted to buy the melco n1h60 mk2 for my nds. Briefly the sound quality of the Zenith with the Audiophilleo USB to spdif kit is on a par with/better than NDS. I have configured mine to to also act as a Roon end point - just a simple click of a mouse. Some member mentioned that the ND5XS2 has the same streaming board as NDX2, is that mean they have the same digital quality? what about Uniti Apr 4, 2020 · The Uniti Core actually sounds like it’s a great product. Happychappy December 9, 2023, 7:06pm 29. The current Mk3 version has an SPDIF digital output, as does the Unitiserve, which would be a good match for the V1. It would be great to hear from other users about your experiences with this little marvel. An Feb 12, 2020 · Recently I downsized from separates to a Naim Uniti Nova all-in-one. Recently I downsized from separates to a Naim Uniti Nova all-in-one. Of course, a perfect match is the Naim Uniti Jul 30, 2021 · UPNP support works flawlessly on my Zen and Zenmini. Would they have all the older CD’s I’ve accumulated over the years. Feb 16, 2021 · At one point Squeezebox was the future and would be around forever. , install Roon Core on the Innuos and use the Naim as Roon endpoint though the Roon app with the Innuos as source as well as Tidal (with MQA as Roon can do the first unfold) or Qobuz. So Innuos is a good alternative to the Uniticore, even cheaper if you take the Innuos zen mini. I got an innuos zen mini mk3 as a streamer and hooked it to a chord qutest external dac via usb ( have tried optical digital as well). Maybe a call to Naim might give me a better idea of longer term serviceability. I have ripped 850 albums. The Core is a really poor end user experience for the price. What I will end up with is NDX and Jan 31, 2019 · Hello all, I’m really struggling here. It is nine-year-old technology which is practically full and keeps dropping off the network (I know the two things might be linked). Dec 18, 2021 · There’s the innuos devices and naim core device. If you want the convenience of a ripper/store/server that works off the shelf, an Innuos Zen Mini will do everything the Core can do, and much more, for half the price. The dealer is going to clean the lens on the CDX2 which has one CD with a bad final track which the Zen did rip. If you buy a Zen Mini it has SPDIF output. it is indeed costly, but if you price up an Innuos that can have a SSD (which is removable in the case of the Naim)and has a linear power supply (plus it built way better), the price looks more reasonable. It seems the Innuos app 6 days ago · You can also use Uniti Core as a standalone digital source – simply connect it to a digital-to-analogue converter or an amplifier with digital inputs and control playback via the Naim Apr 18, 2022 · Has anyone compared Innuos Statement (or similar) + Dave/MScaler vs Innuos + ND555? In the first case Innuos would rip and serve to the ND555 as DAC and streamer. In the second, the Innuos would rip, serve and stream to the Dave/MScaler. Nov 27, 2023 · This is an old device now, and it has its limitations. While high-quality Dec 28, 2021 · it is the upnp end on the Uniti 2. It’s always done everything right for me. Just looked, quick start guide indicates using a USB port to attach an external cd drive for ripping purposes, bit messy don’t you think? Amplifiers CD Players Power Supplies Accessories Uniti Statement Mu-so. We should at least be able to connect to Internet Radio and Qobuz and Aug 30, 2021 · Hi, I have a dilemma which I am trying to resolve! I have both a Naim uniti Atom and an innuos zen mini my 3 hooked up to a gryphon Diablo 300 which feeds B&W 802 d3s. I have a Melco n1z2 and Nds/555dr. 5/hc/250/ATC 7s. (Hiface M2Tech ). 0 offers Roon type curation, is free or allot cheaper and maximises SQ. I can ask him for details if you want, although the Melco may be different. Jan 29, 2022 · Hi again I bought the Uniti Star and also upgraded my Innuos to the Zen Mini Mk3. Apr 25, 2022 · Innuos Zen Mini mk3 + LPSU (Supplied power cable, plugged into Wireworld Matrix 2 power hub) Connections Using Zen Mini (internal DAC) analogue output - Test Interconnect - NAC72 source input “Tuner” (5 pin DIN) Naim NAC72 - Naim HiCap - NAP140 (PowerLine Lite on HC and NAP140, plugged into Wireworld Matrix 2 power hub) Interconnects Mar 22, 2020 · If I was searching today a server/ ripper in one box, I would buy an Innuos zen mini or zen, instead of second hand unitserve. It is less than half the price of the Aurender Dec 21, 2023 · The ZEN and ZENith Next-Gen are an entirely new range of products that are positioned between the current Mk3 models and the STATEMENT Next-Gen. Feb 3, 2019 · Hi, Thanks for the insight re the Innuos servers, very informative and interesting. I got cheesed off with Naim streamers and Uniti Core 2-3 years ago. Then, access to this from both Zen Mini, as a streamer, in room 1. *I’ve not had a chance to test this myself. You can check details on the Innuos site. mikehughescq Oct 2, 2024 · Anyone else using one of these? I just bought one on Amazon for $329. Also, connected with Qobuz streaming service. The HDX I am looking at has been upgraded to 2TB and was serviced by Naim this year. I got an Mar 17, 2023 · The Zen has ethernet connection to streamer or USB connection to a DAC. It’s also a CD ripper, metadata editor, UPnP server, Roon server, SPDIF source, analogue source, and a streamer for web services such as Tidal, Spotify etc. You can rip cds and store hirez files . By Steve Huff. Nov 24, 2022 · It was off for an hr and no joy, innuos support said connect via the diagnostic hdmi to a tv to see if the boot log runs thankfully my fab local dealer @BasicallySound stepped in and offered help even though he did not supply the zen mini. Any thoughts or feedback from other users - using a Zen Mini mk3 as Roon Core - would be most welcome ? Amplifiers CD Players Power Supplies Accessories Uniti Statement Mu-so. So risky. The direct ethernet connection is a plus. I have been wanting to upgrade my SQ and realised that I can’t get a digital output from my uniti atom so decided to try the separates way. The Innuos is a very flexible bit of kit. duplicate the streaming functionality of the Innuos. Jul 5, 2024 · I too have this problem—my Uniti Core cannot retrieve any metadata, no matter how mainstream the CD is. I have compared identical files with these configuration: using Innuos Sense with tracks from the Zen storage or streamed via Qobuz; using the Naim app with tracks from the Zen storage or my NAS via Asset or streamed via Qobuz Feb 5, 2019 · Nbpf, Thanks, but if you read my quite long Innuos Zen Mini - Feedback Requested thread you will see I have tried the Mini. Aug 5, 2020 · An excellent bit of kit; I much prefer it to a Innuos Zen Mini. I doubt I will be disappointed. I don’t see a DAC or streamer in your profile, so you will need a DAC to use the Zen. I’m concerned about getting on the full streaming/dac single unit upgrade cycle. for 200-500€, yeah but not more. I have ripped all my CD’s (1000 plus) via a Mac to ALAC (Apple Lossless) and they sit on a hard drive. Also found the zenith much more sensitive to setup than the melco was. If I was building a Roon based streaming system I wouldn’t be using Innuos, they lack power that’s why they are not Roon approved. It may well make more of a Jan 23, 2021 · Hi I would just like to post my thoughts on the Innuos Zenith 2Tb MK 3 with my NAC 272, 250DR, XPS DR, Focal Utopia Diablo NAC A5. The noise on the uPnP should reduce on the dedicated streamer port (like the Melco), but no idea how much it matters. Roon is a relatively small company as is Innuos. Even though, it uses the old streaming engine it’s a higher class in the Naim’s range and was one of the best streamers a few years ago. Before buying the Waversa, I also looked into the Innuos platform since I like the form factor of the Zen mini but my impression was that it is better Sep 14, 2022 · Innuos Zen Mini mk3. Recent trials of the Innuos range were even more impressive. above Naim options with XPS or NPX. Aug 17, 2024 · Some years back I sold my Unitiserve, due to the arrival of the Core. At one time I thought the Uniti Core might be a contender, but received wisdom suggests not as good. If Innuos 2. Preference is for Roon. 0. 5 price differential, Core (£2199) and Zenith 2TB (£5099). Jul 24, 2020 · I had the Melc n1a/2 but just moved to innuos zenith mk3 Melco sounded good but frustrated with lack of roon/software Went with innuos as could run roon core and player from same box and is great in that regard. As before the Zen MK2 is Jul 4, 2020 · Roon Nucleus Review as a STREAMER vs Innuos Zen Mini MKIII. roundhead December 20, 2021, 6:33am 29. Other stand alone ripper/storage like the Innuos zen mini or Feb 4, 2019 · Hello Folks Just politely asking if there are any updates planned at all for the Uniti Core here and then?? (If anybody is maintaining a list with “observations” could I contribute as well?) Just asking Naim Audio - Community Uniti Core. I don’t want the innuos finally and the melco n1z mk2 is too expensive for me now. 0 supporting USB Audio Class 1, USB Audio Class 2 and Dop o Coaxial S/PDIF up to 24bit/192KHz o Optical S/PDIF up to 24bit/96KHz * Analog Output o RCA Analogue up to 24bit/192KHz * CONNECTIVITY o Ethernet o 1 x rear panel RJ45 – Gigabit Ethernet Other o 1x VGA, 2x Dec 15, 2022 · We have the Innuos Zen Mini mk3 + LPSU on home loan over the holidays. The Inuos Aug 5, 2020 · I'm thinking the much better power supply of the core, straight connection to DAC would equal a sizable improvement. I would like to rip approx 350/400 CD’s, store them and serve to NDX (2012). Did longer listening into Jul 30, 2020 · I’d give a pretty penny if I’d chosen the Innuos Zen instead of the Uniti Core. I’m already 1/2 way there with a Statement and my intention was to use it with an ND555 but circumstances are forcing Mar 5, 2021 · Innuos are making a real step change here with their 2. It’s both a ripper, a server and a streamer and a CD player. Now I have use the inbuilt Roon core/player and Roon picks up the 'Airplay" option on my DAC and am able to then play from the Innuos via ethernet (the Hegel HD30 does is not wifi enabled). Secondly the CPU that is in the Naim Core is much less powerful so it is unlikely that it would actually have the actual horsepower to run Roon Core at a decent lick if a build was Feb 22, 2020 · Might be worth considering a Innuos Zen 3 mini or zen mk 3. I also have a Rega RP3 turntable and B&W DM 602 S2 speakers. 2021, 8:50am 2. Assistance Extended Parts Mar 27, 2021 · The Innuos works very well as a Roon Core and as Mike said the forthcoming Innuos App looks promising, hopefully it can improve on Roon’s sound quality which can be bettered. Godam February 4, 2019, 12:14am 1. My 272 is also connected to a 555PS and I want to keep the naim sound. I’m streaming Apple Music through an older Apple TV with optical output to the Uniti because I can’t see the screen. Yes you can run them as a Roon core, I did for a few years, but that’s the limit. When Mar 20, 2024 · If you don’t want to fully commit to streaming, I would suggest an Innuos Zen Mini as a more versatile alternative to a Core. I’ve said it many times on this forum. Reading the specs apart from storage and the linear power supply I can’t see much difference. An Innuos Zen Mini and Chord Hugo would be a fantastic front end for modest £’s. Other guys will have different suggestions. The unitserve is a bit prehistoric now. Sep 18, 2021 · Currently I have a Naim Superuniti and Naim unitiserv - not the most recent one. I don’t want a Naim Streamer or a Core because of the App having tried them. (See bio’ ). I have found my best SQ by ethernet to be Roon Nucleus running Roon Core, Innuos Zenith in Roon Player mode. Alternatively, if you like the idea of a device that works straight out of the box, I would consider an Innuos Zen Mini, which has much wider functionality than the Core for less than half the price, and save the money towards a streamer/DAC upgrade. 3 music server offers class-leading performance and some outstanding features. And no Not only is it compatible with the Uniti Atom, Uniti Star, and Uniti Nova, but it can also stream music to many other players, speakers, and systems from Naim and beyond. These devices have better power supplies, fast processors for quick Jun 18, 2020 · If you have a very good source, at the level of Ndx2 and more, and if you stream mainly locally, I strongly recommend something at the level of Innuos zenith, Melco n1h2 and up level. I have Nd5xs2 with ee8 switch so is it best to connect the zen via the switch or use the Ethernet pass through to the Nd5xs2? It also has digi out so can try that into the naim or indeed analogue out straight to the SN3 so many options! Nov 20, 2024 · Nuovo modello MK3 con doppia alimentazione lineare, nuova scheda madre custom-made, trattamento di filtraggio EMI e piedini di isolamento asimmetrici. These can act as a Roon core plus rip your CD’s and are less than the cost of the Core. If you prefer a proprietary setup I would look at an Innuos Zen Mini. Mark. Round of applause to Tony! Nov 11, 2021 · So clearly the difference in sound quality between the HDX and the NS01 is night and day. Jul 24, 2020 · Melco and Innuos only have USB out so you would have to use a Dac if you wanted to use them indirect into a Naim Streamer Naim Core is bnc digital out so that’s direct into a naim streamer. Quite shocked with the improvement when I first added it but had a few ups Jan 23, 2019 · A few weeks ago someone suggested to me that the Innuos Zen was worth considering. server and ROON Core improvements. It streams music to both connected DACs and other Roon endpoints on your network. But again, I would rather get a NUC with good LPS, and Euphony for less money. The Mini does not cut it for me. It’s pretty much instantaneous with my jriver upnp server software. I have owned an NDX2/XPS DR alongside an Innuos Zen MK III and always enjoyed the platform of Roon as a way mainly to see all of my streaming library (Qobuz) alongside my FLAC files (loaded into the Innuos or ripped from CD). In terms of moving from the Mini to Zen to Zenith the main difference is the number of local power supplies built in, 1,2 &3, I think the price differences accurately Sep 29, 2023 · Hi everyone, I am looking into throwing the pc out & would like to store roughly 1300 cds on my Naim Uniti via Brennan 3 or maybe Innuos Zen mini? My two questions are 1, which of these is best on sound quality? 2nd how do I connect them to naim Uniti & still get album artwork on the Naim app? Any input would be appreciated. What streamer are you using. And, as with much else in hi-fi, the answer is (you guessed it) not straightforward. 👍 because the streaming part of the Nd555 should logically be miles ahead over the Core. Has anyone compared the melco n1ah60 mk2 with the core? Jun 29, 2019 · Hi @frenchrooster, I ran into a similar problem when I bought my Innuos Zen and wanted to transfer all my files from the Unitiserve, it was a bit tricky for my dealer but he managed to do it, all the files and artwork came over, so it can be done. In the end its 1x hard drive nas. Not only that but the Qobuz streams directly from the Nova also seem to pull ahead of FLAC files stored on my Innuos. The ripping and serving functions of the Unitiserve are quite basic. Disponibile Innuos Zen Mini Specifications * AUDIO OUTPUTS * Digital Output o USB 2. I’d appreciate any feedback on ease of use of Dec 1, 2023 · For an off the shelf box I would choose an Innuos Zen Mini. Something’s not right here; my uq2 which is a similar generation wrt Naim upnp capabilities has no such difficulty. I would guess that the current range of the Zen/Zenith will be phased out over the next few years. Oct 11, 2024 · As stated in one of the other threads (@IainO writes well on this subject, ie Naim Core vs Innuos Zen to me as to why the Naim Uniti Core cannot be modernized and become competitive. I am thinking of replacing the laptop with an Innuos ZENmini mk3 which would connect directly to my router, and then link the Innuos and atom via the streamer ethernet output. Thanks for the explanation. Does anyone have any experience of both units and, if so, how they compare? I Aug 19, 2019 · I’m looking to replace my ageing Audiolab 8000 series pre + 4 mono block for a Naim uniti “all in one” I want to keep my project RPM9 turntable, Vertere phono 1 and B&W Nautilus 802 loudspeakers. Dec 2, 2021 · Hi, So starting over having lost music on a ZoneRipper. Some use it here on the forum. Jul 26, 2022 · Naim Audio - Community Innuos Zenith MK3 or alternatives? the Zen is a lot less expensive and some good demo deals in the region of £1800 for a 2TB player. Depending on your budget something like a Wiim Mini Pro or one of the Auralic products are other options. Mar 18, 2020 · Innuos’ range of ZEN music servers each have their specific niche, that perfectly suits significant parts of the audio enthusiast market. I like that owners can choose and change out the hard drive themselves. So in a nutshell, an Innuos Zen Mini3 could potentially replace my Mac mini, UPnP Asset streaming software and the Oct 28, 2023 · We have the Innuos Zen Mini mk3 + LPSU on home loan over the holidays. But decided against it, delayed launch and they seem to be chasing their tail bug fixing the app. e. Mar 7, 2021 · Melco N1A/2 (demo loan alongside N1ZH/2, Uniti Core) Innuous Zen Mini with LPSU (upnp) - nice functionality. Jul 9, 2020 · I’m planning to use an Innuos Zen Mini mk III to store my current music library to feed an ND5 XS2. Tested that as well, but when using the app for getting a bit forward there is a crack in the speakers before music is going on. The first would be my choice. about the Core and metadata Maybe Naim should just copy the same system that Innuos use concerning the handling of metadata. using a Zen as a player/streamer, but potentially Squeezelite devices on the network. Previously I was using a NAS Innuos Zen Mini Specifications * AUDIO OUTPUTS * Digital Output o USB 2. Good isolation like cera pucks and a decent power cable made a big difference Mar 12, 2018 · But with devices like Innuos zen or zenith and Melco n1a (and perhaps less so from advertised spec of the naim uniti core) what you are buying is a dedicated audiophile type usb streamer and nas, that you can either use usb or Ethernet connections to the hi Fi for best sound. Someone above said that the Innuos uses non proprietary app. An nd 555 for a Feb 23, 2020 · If you rip CDs or buy downloads, you might find DBpoweramp a good alternative to iTunes. Almost certainly, the Naim would Jun 10, 2023 · Innuos are not getting my money. 0 supporting USB Audio Class 1, USB Audio Class 2 and Dop o Coaxial S/PDIF up to 24bit/192KHz o Optical S/PDIF up to 24bit/96KHz * Analog Output o May 29, 2019 · Innuos have a range of similar products, then there is a the ALLO Digi-One Signature, and I recall there’s something from DCS. All because the Uniti Core 1) lacks versatility. Breaks too often. Look at the number of recent threads on the Core not fetching metadata. Other than Mu-so, all Dec 14, 2020 · As much as I’ve enjoyed my SuperUniti, I’ve had mixed feelings about the naim app (great when it works, but doesn’t always connect) and more recently about the fact that the legacy streams have been left behind to May 26, 2019 · When connected this way, is it still the 272 that will be playing (ie its dac) and not the innuos. of the new Innuos NG range yet - the ZEN NG and Zenith NG ? I’m contemplating the ZEN NG as a replacement for my ZENith mk3. Option to stream from the Zen Mini SSD archive of CD’s too. The metadata will be much easier to change and your Aug 11, 2020 · connects to my nd 555 through ethernet cable (excludes core), no remote streaming; could be used as roon core (I do not want to add another box)excludes 3 of them For the latter I undertand Innuos is roon compatible but yet not “roon core” So ultimately I am waiting for a new product from any of the 3 companies, hoping Naim will surprise Sep 7, 2021 · Hi, I have a dilemma which I am trying to resolve! I have both a Naim uniti Atom and an innuos zen mini my 3 hooked up to a gryphon Diablo 300 which feeds B&W 802 d3s. This presents as a capable streaming solution. But most importantly, its sound quality is just superb!. Naim Audio - Community SQ issue! Oct 21, 2020 · I have an Innuos Zen and Nova, it was purchased as a replacement for my Unitiserve, largely at the time for Roon core and Qobuz. Nov 16, 2023 · Bluesound App vs Naim App - usability and responsiveness? I know a dealer comparison is the best bet, but, I don’t have a local dealer who has all the items on dem, and more than likely I’ll be looking at ex-dem / used. Dec 28, 2023 · We use the Core only as a ripper, and there are much cheaper alternatives for this. Regards, The Sep 14, 2024 · Naim Core vs Innuos Zen(ith)? Streaming Audio. So far, it’s set up with Naim Focal app’ as well as Roon. Nov 18, 2023 · We have the Innuos Zen Mini mk3 + LPSU on home loan over the holidays. Innuos Zen Mini MK 3 - Feedback Request. inbuilt ripper, roon endpoint/core. ND555 probably sits out on its own. I Oct 22, 2023 · On the one hand it seems that Naim regard the Core as a suitable server for all its streamers and uses it in all demos, while the Zen Mini seems to be at the bottom of the Innuos Sep 18, 2021 · For less than £2000, I can get a 4Tb or 8Tb Innuos Zen Mk3 with a power supply. (ii) Yes the software on Mar 14, 2022 · I like my Unitiserve, and it certainly makes ripping simple, but beware of buying an old one which will cost a bit to repair if it dies. Naim Audio - Community Uniti Core playlists and importing ALAC. He suspects hd fail but will sort with innuos as it’s still in warranty. II – Your entire music collection on a single, sleek box, ready for playback in any room, any time . Jul 10, 2019 · Currently I have a 2017 MacBook Pro acting as a Roon Core, streaming via wifi to an atom (which is connected to the router through an ethernet cable). Sep 10, 2021 · Hi, I have a dilemma which I am trying to resolve! I have both a Naim uniti Atom and an innuos zen mini my 3 hooked up to a gryphon Diablo 300 which feeds B&W 802 d3s. The Nova has a built-in streamer and upsampling DSP, and in the context of the "all-in-one" sounds Mar 17, 2017 · The dealer who sells both both Naim and Aurender said they are similar, and there is no clear cut winner for sound quality. And, 2) worse, its WAV formatted music cannot be transferred anywhere else. It is less than half the price of the Aurender and Naim Uniti Core, and is almost as good. Innuos ZM with LPSU (roon experimental mode) This is why I would like to see Naim emulate (functionally) Innuos 2. I don’t think that the disproportionate amount of publicity the former gets in the relatively small world of high end audio should be used to attribute them with a level of technical knowledge unachievable by others. I was basically told by a dealer who sells both the Naim Uniti Core and Zen Dec 3, 2023 · Innuos recommend the Naim Uniti profile for the ND555. Hello. I have been left with the following observations; (i) I really cannot hear much difference in sound quality, between the Core and Zenith. @ratrat has written a lovely thread on the Innuos Zen Mini and its upgrade to a Mini S. It has the custom motherboard and a good LPS. If I was starting from scratch and only streaming, I’d get the best Innuos I could afford and pair it with a decent Dac, no need for a streamer. I am considering buying a Uniti Core but unable to demo at the moment due to current restrictions. The ‘Insights’ reads as if this will initially be for the USB output only, I. May 5, 2021 · I tested roon server running on Innuos vs Sonicorbiter and find that a dedicated server (so to speak “off load roon from NAS”) gives me much better SQ! Read somewhere (stereophile? part-time audiophile?) that they got same results: if possible, take the roon duties of the NAS. To be honest, I like the Melco a lot and ripping works very good through a Buffalo drive. I use hi res steaming via quboz and tidal. Cost around 800 dollars, so much cheaper than the uniticore. If I keep my ndac, I can Nov 15, 2019 · There are lots of small DACs that would fit, such as some Chord models, or a Naim V1 of course, but then you need a computer or other streaming box to feed it. Btw: that’s the reason why melco will not run core on their HW! May 7, 2021 · For example, if you want a simple, ready to use device, an Innuos Zen Mini at less than half the price of the Core is hugely more versatile. £100 I use a Pioneer Nov 19, 2023 · PULSAR & DAVE vs. In your comparison did you pair them both with a chord dac as well by any chance. Dec 30, 2019 · The unitserve can easily fail ( hdd failure) . Jan 21, 2018 · It seems I could use a Naim Uniti Core, but this seems quite costly, hasn't had an exactly spectacular set of user reviews/experience and I'm also concerned with potential future compatibility with non Naim kit. The new Innuos Pulse series might be of interest. This is puzzling and pleasing Apr 12, 2024 · After a few months of faultless operation, my Zen 3 (feeding my NDS via Sense UPnP) now plays all tracks at ~ 110% normal speed! Some might argue this is a positive for a few selected artists, but overall it’s not a great result. The Core is built like a brick and does look nice and is easy to use. Feb 12, 2023 · Ripping software such as DBpoweramp is far more versatile than the Naim ripper, so if you are happy to use a computer that would be my choice. It will be a source for the Superuniti of all my hi-res purchases and ripped flac files. Feb 23, 2021 · Some will say use “ why bother with an Innuos or Core, a Nas is all you need”. I’m on day 4 now with the Farad Super3. I guess this offers better value than going down the Naim core route as this seems a bit of a cul-de-sac in the current streaming climate. That being said, I’m trying to figure out what’s next to upgrade my streaming. Naim can still service them at the moment, at a price, of course. Osiris January 6, 2025, 4:54pm 22. 0 software, effectively having most of the UX and library management features that roon has. I've gone back to the Naim app since May 15, 2021 · morning all, any innuos statement owners out there interested in views and whether much uplift SQ wise vs a zenith mk3 with/with out a pheonix usb application would be to drive a DAVE dac into naim pre/power setup as ever appreciate views and experiences 🙂 mat May 10, 2020 · I myself did a fairly extensive evaluation of local server and ripping which included demos of the zen mini and zenith and Naim Core and Melco products. I am considering purchasing a Uniti Apr 20, 2023 · Naim ND5 XS2 → DC1 → Naim DAC → HiLine → Naim SuperNAIT 3. Although I’d expect a substantial one - noting the price difference. I find no matter how I use any of them if they are hooked to the network the network comes into play and paying attention to the network yields positive Apr 27, 2022 · And have been happy with it. ND5 XS2 is a stalwart Circling back to ND5 XS2 → DC1 → nDAC. I've now been using a Uniti Core for a few months. Oct 30, 2023 · The Uniti Core is state of the art, in 2023 too. After a period with ripping to NAS, I purchased a Melco N1a2, later upgraded with EX software and Songkong subscription. Certainly not to justify the 2. Streaming Audio. You could also add M-Scaler to any of the Innuos + Chord options too. I am currently considering purchasing either the Zen Mini Mk3 or the Zen Mk3, my dealer recommends the Zen over the Zen Mini from a sound quality point of view. We’re leaving vinyl, and its particular sound qualities, out of this blog (one for the Jun 24, 2019 · Thought i would start this as a new thread as my original Raspberry Pi (Bubble UPnP) vs Zen Mini MK3 (Roon) got derailed and i ended up getting MK2 Zen (better spec and 3 rail LPS). There are lots of choices for how play ripped music. Nova/ innuos zen mini 272/250. It does play DSD. Hardware cost; Ease of use; Ripping process; Extra features like Roon; Industrial design - racking/space; Extensibility - Adding/swapping more storage; Upgradability - PSU and storage Feb 15, 2022 · The WStreamer is a pure network bridge and connected to my Naim nDAC via coax cable. An Innuos zen mini is good and very fine for convenience, but it would not be clearly an uplift vs a Nas. 2 Likes. I am using Roon to manage my local library and Qobuz subscription and the WStreamer is a Roon Ready endpoint. Cheers everyone. Quick snap, to share Feb 12, 2020 · I've had an Innuos Zen MK III for a little over a year now and consider it an integral part of my system (frankly it's the one component that I haven't swapped out in the past 12 months). Feb 8, 2022 · I have an Uniti, the screen needs to be repaired but the CD player still works. Hard drive storage is a very small part of an Innuos Zen Mini. Thinking to get a Core, ND5XS2 or NDX2 to connect the Dave via coaxial digital, but don’t know which one provides better streaming digital output. Excellent. I have connected it via digital input into the NAC 272 to usb into the Zenith. With the Jul 5, 2022 · I think you would be better off with a Naim uniti Core with NDX2, the uniti star is a stand alone player and some on the forum are reporting drop outs on their playback of rips. Some reckon the Zen III is the value model, but the dealers will upsell to a Zenith III - which is a genuinely good streamer as well as music library. Mar 24, 2022 · The Innuos zen Mini is connected via ethernet cable to router and to the ND5 XS2. Get a demo if you can - most dealers are pretty helpful and Innuos UK will help them fill in the gaps, though you may have to wait a bit before a demo model becomes Dec 20, 2022 · Do you need the ripping functionality of a a Core or Innuos? If not, you are essentially looking for a digital transport that supports Tidal/Qobuz and connects to your DAC. Used it briefly in place of an Innuos Zen Mk3 into Chord Dave/32. Looked or listened to? I just traded my Uniti Core for a Melco N10 based on SQ alone, i also tried an Innuos Zenith mk 3 and Melco full width N1A/2 EX 50B. For example, for us, a simple playback Apr 28, 2019 · an innuos zen mini is also a good solution. As I use it as a server only it might be less prominent - but do not know what the 3rd psu feeds. However, you can also have it set up to send the music to the streamer via UpNP. I was considering buying an Innuos pulse mini at one stage. I hope you enjoy adding the Zen to your system. I feel the n1ah60 is better vs the uniticore. I will transfer the library to the Zen from my Mac using the Auto Import file - I’m not planning to re-rip any CDs, all of my files are either ALAC or FLAC. The Uniti Core is often labelled as expensive. It's the latter which is the current concern. Aug 26, 2021 · Hi there - hoping I can get some clarity about running my Innuos Zen MK III vs simply running my NDX2 with the Naim app. I have Feb 17, 2021 · Hi all, I’ve used my Synology DS213j to stream my ripped CDs and HiRes FLAC files to originally my ND5-XS streamer and now an NDX2 for almost seven years without any problems. Great set up and I’m very happy with the sound/useabliity cf Uniti 2 with Zen Mk2 One little quibble (I have checked the forum for an answer before daring to post :-). I plan to manage everything using Roon with the core on the Zen. Depends what your trying to achieve. As Roon Core; Connect it to the Nova as under 1. The Nova has a built-in streamer and ups Apr 26, 2020 · I am using a ROCK NUC feeding the Dave via USB. For less than £2000, I can get a 4Tb or 8Tb Innuos Zen Mk3 with a power supply. Nov 8, 2019 · There are less expensive USB to SPDIF devices. The advantage vs a memory stick is that you can have your music library organized, with cover albums and metadata visible on the naim app. Then there is the convenience, Nov 17, 2018 · Last weekend I compared the Zen mk3 and Naim Core, in both cases using a Chord Qutest and my headphone rig. This setup is available for users with Innuos ZEN (MkII, Mk3, Next-Gen) series or Statement systems; it Jan 24, 2022 · Using Nucleus as the core). Nov 11, 2021 · Okay, so an update. If I switch to the Naim app via native UPnP, everything plays at the May 12, 2019 · Stream fully integrated Qobuz or Tidal (in MQA as the Innuos is capable of) to the Naim and also locally stored music. However, there Jan 8, 2019 · One of the key differences between the Uniti Core and its predecessor is that the hard drive is not included in the price, which means that you can use the HDD (spinning) or Jan 5, 2025 · Innuos do have a new range of Zen/Zenith Next Gen servers released recently, £9k/£14k (storage extra). I have Demoed an nd5x2 on its own, nd5x2 with qutest, ndx2 and nd5x2 with a hugo tt2 The sq between 2&3 was difficult to tell apart Apr 17, 2023 · As a fellow Zen and Naim owner, I thought I would give you my thoughts. Then, when I got aware of the limitations of the Core I looked at other solutions. Cost around £1600, and you wouldn’t lose much if you decided to sell. There is a degree of overlap re streaming platforms. There have been a lot of other component changes and I am now with a Naim classic system (as per profile) in my main Roon Core – Your Innuos Server will function as a dedicated Roon Core, efficiently managing your music library and handling all aspects of audio playback. Jan 31, 2019 · I don’t want spend more than needed on a Zen (Mini, Mini+LPS, Zen or Zenith). I’m considering changing to Uniti Core and Uniti Atom. In our case, we had the lovely Zen Mini on home demo’ for a coupe of weeks. For considerably less money than that, a traditional NAS/UPnP server would do the job very well for £300. The Core is even more basic, and I wouldn’t buy Feb 15, 2021 · Innuos Zen/Phoenix into Chord MScaler/Dave/Etude, PMC Twenty5. Jan 6, 2025 · Naim Audio - Community Innuos mk2 zenith vs mk3 zen. Sadly I would not recommend Innuos, I am neck high after 18 months with their legal team and courts, awaiting a half-day trial. Several reboots / factory resets / app reinstalls haven’t resolved the issue. No internet radio, no access to music services like Tidal, Qobuz, etc. It had been disconnected for a few months; on startup the firmware was updated, without incident. So as I sit in my music room writing this review/comparison here on July 4th 2020 I am May 8, 2020 · The Innuous Zen/Zenith range have a wider range of capabilities than the Melco, e. 6 days ago · YOUR MUSIC, IN ONE PLACE, ALWAYS AVAILABLE The Innuos Zen Mini Mk. Apr 24, 2019 · The Zen MK3 is probably the smallest Innuos server I would consider in my system. It’s a simple plug in, which makes the sense App May 7, 2022 · The Naim option would be a Naim Uniti Core and ND5XS, alternatively you could have a NAS drive on a PC to do the ripping/storage to feed the ND5XS. As the Zen Mini3 does all the streaming and sends the music to the SuperUniti via coaxial. The sound quality should be on par (or very close to, maybe even better) with the streamers in the new Uniti range. The BNC output sounds not so good, even via a very good DAC. For 1k you can have a much more friendly Innuos zen mini or second hand zen. 23 speakers and Nova/Spendor A4 in family room. Innuos does a good job balancing features to value, if you’re set on Innuos which model is best will come down to things like size of your cd library, extended features expectations like Roon Jun 22, 2020 · After planning to upgrade my Innuos Zen Mini Mk3 streamer to a ND5XS2 I took a bit strange decision but purchased a second hand NDX which was a great offer. I have Thanks. If you look at the effort, resources and critical feedback Naim has to endure, with a substantial larger customer base than Innuos, it puts the task into perspective. But in the UPNP mode, Nd5xs2 connected in Ethernet to a switch and Innuos the same, you still use the Naim app. Hello Folks Just politely asking if there are . I am using the Naim Uniti profile for my Naim Nac-N 272. I currently have the Zen mini and it does the job very well but want to demo the Zenith first Mar 3, 2020 · Having done extensive home evaluation of the Naim Core, Innuos Zen Mini, Innuos Zen and also a Melco N100, I had to quantify my decision based on multiple criteria. Although, given the cost of the Uniticore, this would also provide a number of years of streaming. A short film about the Innuos ZEN MK3 ``A custom motherboard (not off-the-shelf); a dual linear power supply from one Dr. Do anyone know the difference between zen and zenith. Not the best I’m sure. What sort of engineering in it is so limiting that the audio experts can’t upgrade it. Phil Feb 27, 2020 · If memory serves correctly, around the time of the excitement of the new Uniti range, followed by the endless wait for the hardware to actually be launched whilst Naim got Airplay working properly, they made the Core a generally available product (a taster if you will), built with the mechanics and design language of the new Uniti range and Jan 3, 2024 · — Makes me chuckle how the descriptions typically gloss over fixes etcThe Rovi API issue certainly wasn’t a small ‘Support’ thing on my Core, causing regular ‘crashes’ of the OS and ‘waking’ the Core – I had Nov 21, 2020 · In your case the best is Nd5xs2 and Core connected to the Ethernet switch. The Zen Mini has an analogue output and from a perpetual tweaker’s viewpoint, it looks the most fun. The Innuos Zen Mini Mk2 XL looks to be a strong contender. I did demo the Core along with the Zen at home and agree that Jan 2, 2025 · Hello I am considering purchasing a Uniti Core to run alongside my Nova. fhsgd wlj vfno ikqfx nkfotfsq ozdttz pehl hshrhe khsgl wlbqfrr